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Quainton News Archive - Quainton News No. 25 - Autumn 1975

LMS Passenger Brake Van No. 33014

An LMS Stove Van Arrives - by John Hutchings

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J M Hutchings - M33014 at Doncaster - 10th April, 1975

For some time the "Sentinel Group" had been on the lookout for a suitable box-van or similar vehicle for the storage of spare parts, tools and other impedimentic which all steam loco owners seem to accumulate. At that time we had a temporary container next to the new building in the Down Yard but this was bursting at the seams. Then we heard that the Society had received tender forms from BR for two BGZ "Stove" Vans of LMS origin lying at Doncaster. BGZ vans are a series of six-wheeled passenger parcels vans built by the LMS at Wolverton in the late 1930's. They have corridor connections although the inside is fully open and a small stove is mounted in the centre of the floor; hence Stove Van. After some deliberation amongst the Sentinel Group it was decided to view the vans and Robin Waywell and I travelled to Doncaster on 10th April. The weather was appalling, rain and gale force winds when we arrived at "Carr Loco" (Doncaster Loco depot to non-LNER fans) and reported to the office. Formalities over we found the two vans lying at Hexthorpe Yard, a small good yard South West of Doncaster Works. After climbing over, under and inside the vans we decided that M33014 was the better of the two, (the other one was M33002). The BR men at the yard were most helpful and towed the van clear of surrounding vehicles for us to photograph; result reproduced above. Next day tender documents were sent off duly completed. Now we could only hope! Tenders closed on April 15th and two weeks later I 'phoned Derby to see if there was any news. "Phone again in two days" said the voice at the other end, which I duly did to be informed that the van was ours! After the cheque had been despatched arrangements were made with BR to move the van by rail to Aylesbury for temporary storage. We were anxious to have this done as soon as possible because the yard at Hexthorpe was subject to visit by vandals. In due course the van appeared at Aylesbury on 29th May and we were relieved to see only two windows broken. Our van was now only six miles from Quainton but these proved to be the most expensive! It was obvious that the Society would not be having another track slew for some time and as we wanted to use our van now we had it, we decided that M33014 would leave the iron road for the first time in her life and come to Quainton by lorry. An opportunity to do this presented itself in early July when Roy Miller and Peter Clarke conveniently arranged to move their third Ivatt from Barry. The haulage firm, agreed to move the van with the same low loader that was to bring the Ivatt but the large vehicle could not negotiate the restricted entrance to the loading point at Aylesbury and, at very short notice, the firm sent another semi-low loader which did the job in fine style.

So on 3rd July the Stove R finally arrived at the Up Yard. The following Sunday a good wash off with special "crud" removing solution revealed a BR blue livery which will be retained for the time being.

Eventually we hope to restore the van to its original LMS livery with full lining. The inside is to have temporary partitions erected at each end to divide it for storage purposes and the centre section will be adapted to provide much needed accommodation for the off duty periods of the Sentinel Group when they require a haven of retreat after periods of stress at Open Weekends, etc!

Quaintonians will know the whereabouts of Dave Alexander's Toad Hall see below, and the plush Horse-box Hilton. Now it is the Sentinel Savoy which is likely to enter the four star category; we think it sounds better than the Stove Van Saloon!

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J R Fairman - The famous Toad Hall!

The text in this Quainton Railway Society publication was written in 1975 and so does not reflect events in the 40+ years since publication. The text and photographs are repeated verbatim from the original publication, with only a few minor grammar changes but some clarifying notes are added if deemed necessary. The photos from the original publication are provided as scans in this internet version of this long out of print publication.

An LMS Stove Van Arrives - by John Hutchings - Quainton News No. 25 - Autumn 1975

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